Events, Conditions, Episodes Project Group meeting minutes 07-10-2017

Events, Conditions, Episodes Project Group meeting minutes 07-10-2017

Date

2017-07-10

Time: 20:00 UTC 

 

Invitees

@Bruce Goldberg
  • @Yongsheng Gao

  • @Former user (Deleted)

  • @Rob Hausam

  • @Penni Hernandez

  • @Former user (Deleted)

  • @Phil Brown

  • @Former user (Deleted)

  • @Robert McClure

  • @Ed Cheetham

  • @Former user (Deleted)

Apologies

@Jim Case



General Comments

  • See agenda below

Item

Description

Owner

Item

Comments/Files

Item

Description

Owner

Item

Comments/Files

1

Welcome and role call

BGO, all

 

 

2

 Allergy/hypersensitivity editorial guidelines

 







BGO

 

 

 

 

 

  • Editorial guidelines based on approved model for review



Discussion involved proposed model for Intolerance to substance associating substance to the disposition using associated with role. @Ed Cheetham implied a more rigorous solution needs to be pursued:

  1. Using has realization with adverse reaction to X (or role group has realization adverse reaction with causative agent x substance)

    1. We explicitly exclude intolerance as per FHIR standard from hypersensitivity (allergy and pseudoallergy).

  2. New attribute, agent of realization

  3. Use "towards"



3

Concurrent vs. co-occurrent

BGO

See comments

  1. 351 concepts use co-occurrent with in FSN

  2. 3 concept uses concurrent with in FSN

  3. SCA editor spell checker prefers concurrent

Suggestion to research meaning of concurrent vs. co-occurrent

@Bruce Goldberg and @Former user (Deleted) to work on this

4

Complications and sequela

BGO

  • Editorial guidelines review

Few additional edits following discussion with @Phil Brown and James Case

Modelling_of_Complications_Sequela_v9.4_JTCrev.docx

Definition of complication reviewed with regard to specifying a complication is an unanticipated occurrence rather than the natural progression of a disease. Exclusion of co-occurrent and due to pattern raised issue offline in terms certain diabetic outcomes that are co-occurrent and due to diabetes such as diabetic ketoacidosis would not be considered complications.

@Bruce Goldberg and @Yongsheng Gao to work on solution

 

5

During and/or after

BGO

  • Should the proposed during and/or after role be used for all procedure complications for which a temporal relationship is not specified?

@Ed Cheetham presented use causes for during and/or after. Consensus was now that this was a useful attribute to retain in order to express uncertainty around certain after effects such as reactive arthritis potentially starting during its cause.

@Phil Brown to provide further insights and examples on use of during and/or after

6

Modeling of CVAs due to thrombosis/embolus - follow-up

BGO

  • Revised model for review

  • Revised model presented. Same parents inferred as original model. Question of need to revise model as it would require creating many new precoordinated classes

  • Questions also arose as to the overloading of the morphology hierarchy with structures that increasingly specify a simple morphology by including an underlying cause such as Hemorrhagic infarct (morphologic abnormality)

  • It was suggested that guidelines need to be developed for when to use a highly specific morphology vs a simple morphology with additional relationships in order to define certain concepts

  • Question arose as to use cases for developing above guidelines

    • Modeling consistency

    • Queries/data aggregation

7

AOB, adjourn

ALL

  • Next meeting August 14, 2017 20:00 UTC

 

 


 

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