June 8, 2020 meeting minutes ECE Project Group

June 8, 2020 meeting minutes ECE Project Group

Invitees

Bruce Goldberg
Former user (Deleted)
Jim Case
Yongsheng Gao
Phil Brown
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Monica Harry
Ed Cheetham
David Robinson
Rob Hausam
Robert McClure (Unlicensed)
Former user (Deleted)
stefan.schulz (Unlicensed)
Former user (Deleted)
Daniel Karlsson
Cathy Richardson 
Krista Lilly 
Nicola Ingram 
Jeff Pierson (Unlicensed) 
Former user (Deleted)



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Reminder to record call

1

Welcome and role call

Bruce Goldberg

 

 

2

After and Co-occurrent with

Bruce Goldberg

  • Review definition of "after"

  • Naming convention for "co-occurrent with"

  • Consensus was that after relationships should include overlap

  • Discussion ensued as to whether "due to" implies after

    • Likely the case for traumatic injuries (after traumatic event)

    • Need evaluation for other combined disorders

Bruce Goldberg to test moving Due to (attribute) under After (attribute)
Bruce Goldberg to find examples where due to may not imply after and where after may not imply due to

 

3

Fetal/maternal modeling

Phil Brown

  • Follow-up of additional modeling

    • See above presentation

Phil Brown to test a new attribute to associate fetal/maternal states with procedures

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Pregnancy/labor/delivery function observables

Bruce Goldberg

  • Proposal to inactivate these

  • abled for next call

5

Non-traumatic brain injuries and stroke

Bruce Goldberg

  • Revised models for stroke using either multiple due to's vs. additional explicit statements in an axiom and incorporating new model for non-traumatic brain injuries

Concern voiced over losing causative condition as a parent.

  • Needs more discussion

Bruce Goldberg to retest model of 724994008 |Cerebral ischemic stroke due to stenosis of extracranial large artery (disorder)| using due to 1055001 |Stenosis of precerebral artery (disorder)| 

6

Botulism

Bruce Goldberg

  • Proposed model for botulism and subtypes

  • abled for next call

7

AOB, adjourn

ALL

  • AOB

  • Next call scheduled for Monday July 13 at 18:00 UTC

  • Additional topics for next call

    • For depositions that are also degenerative morphologies, model the deposition morphology with Deposition (morphologic abnormality) and Degenerative abnormality (morphologic abnormality) parents - present results of additional testing

    • Should retained foreign bodies be modeled as events or disorders? -present results of testing

      • Retain event concepts

      • Create new disorder concepts of the type Disorder due to foreign body left in Body Structure

      • Add an after relationship to surgical procedure when appropriate so that concept is subsumed by 385486001 |Postoperative complication (disorder)|

    • New model for rheumatoid arthritis

      • Bruce Goldberg to review Singh K, Al-Sadawi M, Ortega RR, et al. Interstitial Lung Disease as the Initial Manifestation of Rheumatoid Arthritis: A Case Report and Review of the Literature. American Journal of Medical to determine what prompted the ordering of RF prior to articular symptoms.

 


 

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