April 13, 2021 meeting minutes ECE Project Group
Date
Tuesday 2021-04-13
Repeats 2nd Tuesday of every other month
Time: 16:00 UTC
Zoom Meeting Details
https://snomed.zoom.us/j/93490544477?pwd=SVR0VGIxLzhQYzQwb0VjMHBDUjVwdz09
Meeting ID: 934 9054 4477
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Invitees
Apologies
General Comments
Item | Description | Owner | Item | Comments/Files |
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0 | Reminder to record call | |||
1 | Welcome and role call | Bruce Goldberg |
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2 | Contact dermatitis | Bruce Goldberg |
| Discussion centered around creating new "substance from organism/device (substance) concepts vs. using more generic substance values resulting in such contact dermatitis concepts involving organisms and devices being primitive Bruce Goldberg to ask Farzaneh and Former user (Deleted) for input Bruce Goldberg will investigate scope of this content |
3 | Cerebrovascular accident | Bruce Goldberg
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| Bruce Goldberg to remodel 1156035006 |Nontraumatic injury of brain (disorder)| to include role group with finding site of brain structure and morphology of damage Bruce Goldbergto remodel 373606000 |Occlusive stroke (disorder)| Discussion around whether hemorrhagic stroke and hemorrhagic cerebral infarct can be distinguished clinically Please refer to information provided in comment to yesterday's meeting minutes
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4 | Foreign body left in body/body structure during procedure | Bruce Goldberg |
| Maintain current distinction between foreign body related disorders and events. OK to submit either based on intent. Suggestion was made to change Foreign body left in body/body structure during procedure to Foreign body left in body/body structure after procedure as this situation would be recognized only after the procedure was completed. For surgical procedures, this would enable these to be classified as postoperative complications It is now apparent however that most of Foreign body left in body/body structure during procedure concepts are events which are primitive. Adding after procedure to these would offer no advantage Moving Foreign body to physical object hierarchy would require new model to link the foreign body to the disorder signifying its presence in the body A tracker item has previously been created for Foreign body. For time being no changes to the current organization and model for these concepts will be made |
5 | AOB, adjourn | ALL |
| Next call TBD |
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Comments
Bruce Goldberg,
Is the dependency on moving this forward the decision to move foreign body from morphology to physical object?
Jim, the decisions reached during this call are listed below so I would say that we can move forward without moving foreign body from morphology to physical object at this time.
Moving Foreign body to physical object hierarchy would require new model to link the foreign body to the disorder signifying its presence in the body
A tracker item has previously been created for Foreign body. For time being no changes to the current organization and model for these concepts will be made
OK, let me know if you need a review.
Dear all. The next ECE call will be on June 8, 2021 at 16:00 UTC
Bruce