February 2020 meeting agenda ECE Project Group

February 2020 meeting agenda ECE Project Group



Date

Monday 2020-02-10

Repeats 2nd Monday of every month

Time: 20:00 UTC 



Zoom Meeting Details

https://snomed.zoom.us/j/586788252

Meeting ID: 586-788-252

International numbers available: https://snomed.zoom.us/zoomconference?m=EochJjO8ozm1ZiDr_x9p-bFJCbIBwgqV



Invitees

@Bruce Goldberg
@Former user (Deleted)
@Jim Case
@Yongsheng Gao
@Phil Brown
@Former user (Deleted)
@Monica Harry
@Penni Hernandez
@Ed Cheetham
@David Robinson
@Rob Hausam
@Robert McClure
@Former user (Deleted)
@stefan.schulz
@Former user (Deleted)
@Daniel Karlsson
@Cathy Richardson 
@Krista Lilly 
@Nicola Ingram 
@Jeff Pierson



Apologies



@Former user (Deleted)





General Comments



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1

Welcome and role call

@Bruce Goldberg





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Injuries - continued

@Bruce Goldberg, @Yongsheng Gao

  • Modeling traumatic injuries when morphology is not a subtype of damage

  • Modeling accidental injuries



3

Complications of procedure

@Bruce Goldberg , @Jim Case

  • Re-examination of utility of adding a complication parent to disorders due to procedures

4

Reconsider fetal-maternal modeling

@Phil Brown

  • Need to re-review @Phil Brown's previous proposal for agreement on how to proceed

  • The Netherlands are having translation issues with concepts that could be considered either fetal or maternal findings/disorders (and also affecting the Situation hierarchy). The SCT to ICD-10 map also has inconsistencies. There are trackers:

    An example given was 199549009 |Fetus with drug damage - delivered (disorder)|. They're asking if the concepts say 'delivered,' does this mean it's a concept for the mother's record? Otherwise, if a fetus is delivered, then it is no longer a fetus; however, it's a child of 70591005 |Fetal disorder (disorder)|.

    I think I remember Australia having recent issues with this as well. Is this on an upcoming work plan? ECE? I don't see anything in the Ed Guide regarding subject of record in this context?

    • Response from @Phil Brown -

      In relation to the concept Fetus with drug damage - delivered - I suspect it originates or relates to O35.5 (I didn’t have access to the cross references I think on the SCT browser)

      Maternal care for (suspected) damage to fetus by drugs

       But I think it means that the drug damage occurred whilst the delivered neonate was intra-uterine i.e. a fetus; 

      So the concept probably means Disorder of neonate Due to Drug damage to foetus

5

Pregnancy/labor/delivery function observables

@Bruce Goldberg

  • Proposal to inactivate these in favor of clinical findings

6

Dupuytren disease and contracture

@Bruce Goldberg

  • Proposed modeled for Dupuytren disease and Dupuytren contracture

7

AOB, adjourn

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