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Welcome and role call

Bruce Goldberg

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Injuries - continued

Bruce Goldberg

• Modeling traumatic injuries when morphology is not a subtype of damage

• Modeling accidental injuries

Model for injuries

• Associated morphology = << 37782003 |Damage (morphologic abnormality)|

• Add additional morphologies under 37782003 |Damage (morphologic abnormality)|as required

Model for Traumatic injuries

• Due to 773760007 |Traumatic event (event)|

• Retire traumatic morphologies (<<19130008 |Traumatic abnormality (morphologic abnormality)|)and replace with unspecified morphologies

Model for Nontraumatic injuries

• Due to 789750003 |Spontaneous event (event)|

• Replace nontraumatic and spontaneous morphologies with unspecified morphologies and move under 37782003 |Damage (morphologic abnormality)|if not already a subtype

After inactivating traumatic X (morphologic abnormality)| if X (morphologic abnormality)|is no longer considered a kind of damage, then model traumatic X injuries using 2 role groups, one containing Damage (morphologic abnormality)|and the other containing X (morphologic abnormality)|

Accidental injuries

• Not all accidental events are due to traumatic events.

• Distinction between accidental as meaning unintended occurrence and accident as in ICD-10 meaning an external cause of injury

• Alternate model due to accidental event +during accidental event

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Complications of procedure

Bruce Goldberg , Jim Case

• Re-examination utility of adding a complication parent to disorders due to procedures

See grid for proposed modeling of Disorder combinations including disorders related to procedures

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Reconsider fetal-maternal modeling

Phil Brown

• Need to re-review Phil Brown's previous proposal for agreement on how to proceed

• The Netherlands are having translation issues with concepts that could be considered either fetal or maternal findings/disorders (and also affecting the Situation hierarchy). The SCT to ICD-10 map also has inconsistencies. There are trackers:

  • https://jira.ihtsdotools.org/browse/IHTSDO-734

  • https://jira.ihtsdotools.org/browse/IHTSDO-243

  • https://jira.ihtsdotools.org/browse/IHTSDO-644

  An example given was 199549009 |Fetus with drug damage - delivered (disorder)|. They're asking if the concepts say 'delivered,' does this mean it's a concept for the mother's record? Otherwise, if a fetus is delivered, then it is no longer a fetus; however, it's a child of 70591005 |Fetal disorder (disorder)|.

  I think I remember Australia having recent issues with this as well. Is this on an upcoming work plan? ECE? I don't see anything in the Ed Guide regarding subject of record in this context?

  • Response from Phil Brown -

    In relation to the concept Fetus with drug damage - delivered - I suspect it originates or relates to O35.5 (I didn’t have access to the cross references I think on the SCT browser)

    Maternal care for (suspected) damage to fetus by drugs

     But I think it means that the drug damage occurred whilst the delivered neonate was intra-uterine i.e. a fetus; 

    So the concept probably means Disorder of neonate Due to Drug damage to foetus

See below for revised presentation from Phil Brown

• Phil Brown to test proposed period of life values for modeling pregnancy related complications

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Pregnancy/labor/delivery function observables

Bruce Goldberg

• Proposal to inactivate these in favor of clinical findings

• Tabled for future call

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Dupuytren disease and contracture

Bruce Goldberg

• Proposed modeled for Dupuytren disease and Dupuytren contracture

• abled for future call

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AOB, adjourn

ALL

• Next call, TBA