Events, Conditions, Episodes Project Group meeting minutes 05-08-2017

Events, Conditions, Episodes Project Group meeting minutes 05-08-2017

Date

2017-05-08

Time: 21:00 UTC 

 

GoToMeeting Details

https://snomed.zoom.us/j/7065698062

Recording of meeting

Unfortunately unable to record meeting using zoom

Invitees

@Bruce Goldberg
  • @Ed Cheetham

  • @Yongsheng Gao

  • @stefan.schulz

  • @Former user (Deleted)

Apologies

 

General Comments

  • See agenda below

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Comments/Files

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Description

Owner

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Comments/Files

1

Welcome and role call

BGO, all

 

Due to time change in U.K. meeting started later than anticipated and had to be curtailed after 1 hour due to a prior commitment to another call

2

 Follow-up from April Business meeting











 

BGO

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • Allergy model

 

 

  • Complications and sequelae (general)

 

 

 

  • Pregnancy complications

 

 

 

  • Device complications

 

  • Questions arose from ECH as to why condition and disposition class should be findings and implications of extending domain of has realization to include clinical findings

  • Will solicit additional input from JCA and DKA at next meeting

 

  • Discussion centered around whether before and after are inverse relations

  • SSH did not think necessarily so.

 

  • Tabled for a future call

 

 

 

  • Tabled for a future call

3

Exacerbation of/Exacerbated by

BGO

Continuing discussion of representation of exacerbated of/by...

  • Tabled for a future call

4

Combined disorders/findings and events

BGO

Example: 104051000119105|Accidental needle stick with exposure to body fluids (disorder)

  • My initial thought is to make these disorders and model as Exposure to body fluid co-occurrent and due to needle stick injury.

  • Tabled for a future call

5

Exception to naming convention for combined disorders

BGO

There are some combined disorders that represent named syndromes where if one applies current naming conventions results in a loss of meaning in the FSN

Examples:

Aspirin exacerbated respiratory disease (AERD)

Current FSN: 10692681000119108 |Disorder of respiratory system exacerbated by aspirin (disorder)|

Definition: Nasal polyps, chronic rhino-sinusitis, asthma made worse by NDAIDs

Diabetic mastopathy

Current FSN (suggested): Disorder of breast co-occurrent and due to diabetes mellitus (disorder)

Definition: Inflammation and fibrosis of breast due to type I diabetes mellitus

 

  • Options discussed:

    1. Retain common name as FSN perhaps along with text definition

    2. Expand FSN to include true meaning of concept

    3.  

      • e.g.

        Aspirin exacerbated respiratory disease (AERD) = Nasal polyps, chronic rhino-sinusitis and asthma exacerbated by aspirin

      • Diabetic mastopathy = Inflammation and fibrosis of breast co-occurrent and due to type I diabetes mellitus

Felt option 1. could be used as a rare exception to current terming conventions for combined disorders

6

AOB, adjourn

ALL

  • Next meeting May 22, 2017 2000 UTC

Subsequent meetings will be moved back to 20:00 UTC

 


 

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