Events, Conditions, Episodes Project Group meeting minutes 03-06-2017

Events, Conditions, Episodes Project Group meeting minutes 03-06-2017

Date

2017-03-06

Time: 21:00 UTC 

 

Attendees

@Bruce Goldberg
  • @Yongsheng Gao

  • @Jim Case

  • @stefan.schulz

  • @Former user (Deleted)

  • @Rob Hausam

  • @Penni Hernandez

  • @Phil Brown

  • @Former user (Deleted)

Apologies

 

General Comments

  • See agenda below

Item

Description

Owner

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Comments/Files

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Description

Owner

Item

Comments/Files

1

Welcome and role call

BGO, all

 

 

2

Allergy model











 

BGO

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • Presentation of revised model for allergy and hypersensitivity

  • Use of has realization with value of appropriate descendants of pathological process.



    • Recommendations:

      1. Remove pathological process relationship from hypersensitivity/allergy/pseudoallergy disposition

      2. BGO to reach out to Daniel Karlsson re. acceptability of moving 308489006 |Pathological process (qualifier value)| under 719982003 |Process (qualifier value)|

      3. BGO to perform additional testing with option 1 above.

3

Complications and sequelae

BGO

  • Presentation at EAG call and discussions with @jca and @pbr

  • Proposal to retire complication and sequela and model/name all combination concepts using current guidelines for combined disorders/disorders+procedures while adding complication or sequela as additional descriptions.

    • BGO to test above model in SCA tool

4

Diabetes complications

BGO

  • Our general heuristic for diabetes complications is to make these co-occurrent and due to. This results in them inheriting a parent of 237620003 |Abnormal metabolic state in diabetes mellitus (disorder)| whether or not the complication is an abnormal metabolic state.

  • Decision made to retire 237620003 |Abnormal metabolic state in diabetes mellitus (disorder)|

    • BGO to test implications of above in SCA tool

https://snomed.atlassian.net/browse/IHTSDO-1008

5

Complication of pregnancy, childbirth and/or the puerperium (disorder)

BGO

  • artf223789-Review concept: Patient currently pregnant

 

 

 

 

  • It is suggested that |77386006|Patient currently pregnant (finding)| be reviewed for retirement.

    • "Intrauterine pregnancy (finding)" is not a “Patient currently pregnant (finding)”, it is a "Pregnancy finding". This seems to be an inappropriate parent not only for this concept but for many others. "Patient currently pregnant (finding)" has descriptions like “ Pregnancy confirmed” but has children like Pregnant - on history (finding).

Potential values for temporal relationships related to pregnancy, childbirth and the puerperium discussed. It was noted that the current potential values sound awkward when used with their associated attributes but it was noted that these relationships would not be visible to the end user and thus be used as long as it was clear what the values represent. It was felt therefore that  |77386006|Patient currently pregnant (finding) could be clinically useful and should be retained. The possible use of 307159006 |Pregnancy time period (qualifier value)| with occurrence or a new role was re-examined. No decisions were made. There was agreement that this are requires further analysis and discussion.


6

AOB, adjourn

ALL

  • Next meeting March. 20, 2017 2100 UTC

 

 


 

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