Events, Conditions, Episodes Project Group meeting minutes 07-10-2017

Events, Conditions, Episodes Project Group meeting minutes 07-10-2017

Date

2017-07-10

Time: 20:00 UTC 

 

Invitees

Bruce Goldberg
  • Yongsheng Gao

  • Former user (Deleted)

  • Rob Hausam

  • Penni Hernandez (Unlicensed)

  • Former user (Deleted)

  • Phil Brown

  • Former user (Deleted)

  • Robert McClure (Unlicensed)

  • Ed Cheetham

  • Former user (Deleted)

Apologies

Jim Case

 

General Comments

  • See agenda below

Item

Description

Owner

Item

Comments/Files

Item

Description

Owner

Item

Comments/Files

1

Welcome and role call

BGO, all

 

 

2

 Allergy/hypersensitivity editorial guidelines

 

 

 

 

BGO

 

 

 

 

 

  • Editorial guidelines based on approved model for review

 

Discussion involved proposed model for Intolerance to substance associating substance to the disposition using associated with role. Ed Cheetham implied a more rigorous solution needs to be pursued:

  1. Using has realization with adverse reaction to X (or role group has realization adverse reaction with causative agent x substance)

    1. We explicitly exclude intolerance as per FHIR standard from hypersensitivity (allergy and pseudoallergy).

  2. New attribute, agent of realization

  3. Use "towards"

 

3

Concurrent vs. co-occurrent

BGO

See comments

  1. 351 concepts use co-occurrent with in FSN

  2. 3 concept uses concurrent with in FSN

  3. SCA editor spell checker prefers concurrent

Suggestion to research meaning of concurrent vs. co-occurrent

Bruce Goldberg and Former user (Deleted) to work on this

4

Complications and sequela

BGO

  • Editorial guidelines review

Few additional edits following discussion with Phil Brown and James Case

Definition of complication reviewed with regard to specifying a complication is an unanticipated occurrence rather than the natural progression of a disease. Exclusion of co-occurrent and due to pattern raised issue offline in terms certain diabetic outcomes that are co-occurrent and due to diabetes such as diabetic ketoacidosis would not be considered complications.

Bruce Goldberg and Yongsheng Gao to work on solution

 

5

During and/or after

BGO

  • Should the proposed during and/or after role be used for all procedure complications for which a temporal relationship is not specified?

Ed Cheetham presented use causes for during and/or after. Consensus was now that this was a useful attribute to retain in order to express uncertainty around certain after effects such as reactive arthritis potentially starting during its cause.

Phil Brown to provide further insights and examples on use of during and/or after

6

Modeling of CVAs due to thrombosis/embolus - follow-up

BGO

  • Revised model for review

  • Revised model presented. Same parents inferred as original model. Question of need to revise model as it would require creating many new precoordinated classes

  • Questions also arose as to the overloading of the morphology hierarchy with structures that increasingly specify a simple morphology by including an underlying cause such as Hemorrhagic infarct (morphologic abnormality)

  • It was suggested that guidelines need to be developed for when to use a highly specific morphology vs a simple morphology with additional relationships in order to define certain concepts

  • Question arose as to use cases for developing above guidelines

    • Modeling consistency

    • Queries/data aggregation

7

AOB, adjourn

ALL

  • Next meeting August 14, 2017 20:00 UTC

 

 


 

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