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2018-04-09 & 11 Face to Face Meeting, London

2018-04-09 & 11 Face to Face Meeting, London

2018-Oct-19

Date: 9 & 11 April 2018

Part 1 Monday 9 10:30 - 12:30

Part 2 Wednesday 11 9:00 - 12:30

Objectives

  • Review and agree actions on all currently active work items.

Zoom Details

https://snomed.zoom.us/j/535528933

Meeting ID: 535 528 933

International numbers available: https://snomed.zoom.us/zoomconference?m=7IB2eW_R_dNG29SLhsAq0sVKH1rcc2dQ

Recordings

Part 1: https://snomed.zoom.us/recording/share/4sxzg3nELyHAX-ftTsUa3uIWjvEnn79Az1hIkzozs6WwIumekTziMw 

Part 2:  https://snomed.zoom.us/recording/share/czdvBYRV5imLihymjCRyJeS-leTQbNhqSIyftZ90X-uwIumekTziMw 

Discussion items

Part 1 "Thames" Monday 10:30 - 12:30  UTC 

Description

Owner

Time

Notes

Action

Description

Owner

Time

Notes

Action

1

Start GTM Recording

Meeting Introduction

Group Membership and Process for Nominations

@Peter Williams

15

 

2

DL Enhancements Feedback and Progress

@Yongsheng Gao

@Peter Williams

40

Description Logic Enhancements - Briefing Paper

Roadmap for the DL Enhancements.pptx

  • Stated Relationships file becomes invalid in January 2019 although current timeline suggests available for 2 releases. Suggestion for making file available "On Request" ?

  • As part of logic profile enhancement, plan for the solution development (including concrete domains), documentation and roadmap for implementation

@Peter Williams Follow up on suggestion that from January 2019 the Stated Relationship file should be made available on request. Update to consultation feedback page.
@Kai Kewley to ensure documentation for Classification Service details what can and should be specified in the Stated Relationship file when working in a hybrid fashion.

@Yongsheng Gao to ensure July release clearly states that loading then OWL Ontology Refset into the classifier is obligatory for correct classification.

3

Classification Service, SNOMED OWL Toolkit and generation of NNF

@Kai Kewley

@Yongsheng Gao

40

Classification Service with documentation available in GitHub

ALL to review NNF documentation to be considered approved.
@Yongsheng Gao to include discussion on why GCIs are not represented in the NNF.

Part 2 "Thames" Wednesday 9:00 - 12:30 UTC (break 10:30 - 11:00)

Description

Owner

Time

Notes

Action

Description

Owner

Time

Notes

Action

1

Logic Profile Specification

@Dion McMurtrie

25

SNOMED CT Logic Profile Specification (draft)

ALL review document by 18 April at which point if there are no outstanding issue it will be published.
@Dion McMurtrie to review list of datatypes against common classifier capabilities
2

OWL Refset Specification

@Yongsheng Gao

65

OWL Reference Set Specification (draft)

OWL refsets preview

ALL review document by 18 April at which point if there are no outstanding issue it will be published.
Future discussion on moving away from sequential integers for role group numbers.
@Yongsheng Gao resolve must/exceptions conflict in section 2.4.5. Also highlight use of own module is in extension modifications.
3

BREAK 10:30 - 11:00

4

Issues with navigating SNOMED CT Findings in i2b2

@Jim Campbell

15

i2b2 SNOMED CT issues.pptx

 

5

Concept model changes and potential impact to extensions

@Yongsheng Gao

45

 

@Yongsheng Gao to issue notice of intention to inactivate |Part Of| attribute and relationships.
6

Facilitating Namespace owner lookups

@Peter Williams

5

Facilitating Namespace Lookups

Use cases:

  • Extension maintainer wishes to raise modelling issue with originator of concept

@Peter Williams remove authentication from specific namespace lookup
@Peter Williams progress providing a permanent location that is not implementation dependent. Check FHIR Namespace resource for this.
7

Terminology management evolution

@Yongsheng Gao

10

Items arising from Friday/Saturday meetings:

  • Guidance for modularisation as a way to share content.

  • Future work: Review specification for change set exchange ie content + metadata

QA for that module would also need to be shared.

@Peter Williams setup page to continue discussion.
8

Refset Metadata

@Peter Williams

10

This topic comes from SNOMED on FHIR

Also TRAG item: Reference set metadata

Use cases:

  • Public Library of Simple Refsets

 

9

Working with Historical Associations

@Peter Williams

5

Working with Historical Associations

What is needed here is some clear documentation about how Historical Associations are supposed to work - when to create, when to replace, whether various types should be treated differently.

Historical associations (unlike concepts) continue to grow - an increasing snowball. Why not reuse UUIDs rather than allow that snowball to accumulate.

 

10

AOB

@Peter Williams

5

Use of additional relationships

 

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Previous Meetings

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Meeting Files

  File Modified

Microsoft Powerpoint Presentation OWL refset sepcification.pptx

2018-Feb-16 by Peter Williams

Microsoft Powerpoint Presentation i2b2 SNOMED CT issues.pptx

2018-Apr-09 by Yongsheng Gao

Microsoft Powerpoint Presentation Roadmap for the DL Enhancements.pptx

2018-Apr-09 by Yongsheng Gao

Microsoft Powerpoint 97 Slideshow SNOMED FHIR UK 20180411.pptm

2018-Apr-12 by Peter Williams

Microsoft Powerpoint Presentation CA SCT on FHIR_Condition_20180410.pptx

2018-Apr-12 by Peter Williams

 

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