E2O 15th meeting 20210804

E2O 15th meeting 20210804

Date

2021-08-04 16.00 UTC

Attendees

@Jim Campbell @Former user (Deleted) @Jim Case @Yongsheng Gao @Karim Nashar @Daniel Karlsson @Alejandro Lopez Osornio @Steven Dain

Apologies

 

Objectives

  • Continue to elaborate the migration model for laboratory measurement procedures

Discussion items

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1

Welcome

 

@Daniel Karlsson

2

Conflicts of interest

 

@Daniel Karlsson

  • None stated

 

3

Discussion Phase 1 dataset for migration trial

57 min

@Jim Campbell

@Former user (Deleted)

@Daniel Karlsson

  • Followup on issues from last meeting:

    • Discussion of 'free' and 'total' substances for lab test definitions - response from Farzaneh 

  • Review and discussion of issues from removal of Orderables and population of defining relationships to build test import of 1304 Procedures concepts implemented as lab test results in UK 

  • Test build in OWL for evaluation and testing

2021-08-04:

  • @Karim Nashar made the observation that all "measurements" might not be quantity concentrations.

  • "Catalytic_concentration" will be changed to "Quantity_concentration" except where FSN specifies 'activity'

  • "Measurement" concepts with enzymes should modeled using Quantity concentration

  • "Detection", likely ambiguous, to be moved to Phase 2.

  • "Assay" synonymous to "Measurement".

  • "Titers" also moved to Phase 2.

  • Intracellular also moved to Phase 2. The part-whole relationship between the Observables attributes needs clarification. Will be put on the agenda 

  • 313771003 | Measurement of weight of calculus (procedure) | use Property = Mass.

  • Nucleic acid measurements, typically specific NAs are referred to in lab tests. @Jim Case the concepts in SNOMED CT are very old and should likely be replaced. Also, to be added as a topic for Observables PG discussion.

  • Electrolytes - use when appropriate when the electrolyte is the form that exists in the patient.

  • "Oral fluid" - there is no substance concept corresponding to oral fluid (and likely there shouldn't be any). Represent with | Inheres in | = | Liquid substance |, | Inherent location | = | Oral cavity |.

 
4

Next meeting 

2 min

@Daniel Karlsson

 

 

5

AOB

1 min

@Daniel Karlsson

 

 

Meeting Files

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Microsoft Excel Spreadsheet E2O_Phase1_NoOrders.xlsx

2021-Aug-02 by Jim Campbell

Microsoft Powerpoint Presentation E2O MEETING 15 DISCUSSION.pptx

2021-Aug-05 by Jim Campbell

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