E2O 21st meeting 20211215

E2O 21st meeting 20211215

Date

2021-12-15 17.00 UTC

Attendees

@Yongsheng Gao @Jim Case @Rob Hausam @Daniel Karlsson @Alejandro Lopez Osornio

Apologies

@Former user (Deleted) @Jim Campbell

Objectives

  • Continue to elaborate the migration model for laboratory measurement procedures

Discussion items

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1

Welcome

 

@Daniel Karlsson

  • DO NOT FORGET TO RECORD!

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Conflicts of interest

 

@Daniel Karlsson

 

 

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Discussion Phase 1 dataset for migration trial

57 min

@Jim Campbell

@Former user (Deleted)

@Daniel Karlsson

  • Review of progress with conversion file for UK labs

  • Modelling issues suggested by classification of Phase 1 migration set 

  • Followup on issues from last meeting:

    • Timed specimens shall be identified by instance time stamp of acquisition 

    • 24 hour urine testing deferred to committee deliberation

  • Red cell indices such as Mean corpuscular volume. Representation of averages (or any aggregation) has not yet been finally agreed on,proceed with proposed model

  • Anti-mitocondrial antobody pattern, Leukocyte ALP → items deferred to Observables deliberation

  • Agglutination test. Property = Presence, , Technique = Latex agglutination

  • Titre. How to represent titre in relation to presence and quantity concentration; deferred to committee

  • Von Willebrand factor activity - likely a process observable and out of scope.

  • Produce an OWL file based on decisions made and compare hierarchy of reclassified Observables to Evaluation procedures.

2021-11-03:

  • @Jim Campbell presented work since last time.

  • DK: additional, the differences found between the Evalualtion procedure hierarchy and the E2O Observable hierarchy have highlighted issues with the Evaluation procedure hierarchy.

  • Discussion about future progress of E2O

  • UK current decision is to use Procedures in the context of ordering

    • There would in the UK content not be duplicates between "ordering" and "result" concepts.

  • Keeping two hierarchies with essentially the same meaning introduces maintenance challenges

  • There would be modeling solutions to keep hierarchies in sync, IFF it is possible to write clear guidance on when to use which hierarchy

2021-11-17:

  • Next steps would necessary include the creation of templates for the common lab areas

  • Inactivations of groupers such as "Sodium measurement" - replacement with e.g. "Sodium ion quantity concentration in liquid substance"

  • @Yongsheng Gao propose to create new SCTIDs for Observables and create "link" between Evaluation procedure and Observable concepts.

  • Templates is a good way to get agreement on the application of the (generic) Observables model.

2021-12-15:

  • Proposal: look for subsumees of high-frequency concepts @Daniel Karlsson will check

  • Implementation process:

    • Inform CoP that the project is being done

      • Project statement (cf. project template)

      • Limit to reportables (for the time being...)

    • Keep both procedures and observables while under development

    • Maintain "map"/association refset between corresponding existing evalutation procedures and new observables

    • Develop in a community area

    • Steps:

      • Get moduleId

      • Set up community area

      • Develop templates

 @Daniel Karlsson Bring up generic aggregate observable topic on a future Observables meeting.
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Next meeting 

2 min

@Daniel Karlsson

 

 

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AOB

1 min

@Daniel Karlsson

 

 

Meeting Files

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Microsoft Powerpoint Presentation E2O-20 DISCUSSION-snip-SarahHarry.pptx

2021-Dec-10 by Daniel Karlsson

Microsoft Powerpoint Presentation E2O MEETING 20 DISCUSSION.pptx

2021-Dec-10 by Daniel Karlsson

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