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Jim Campbell,
Are you using the Location (property) concept in your extension to define concepts?
If 758637006 |Anatomical location (property) (qualifier value)| is a duplicate of your extension concept, then Farzaneh Ashrafi and I think your extension concept should be inactivated and you should use the concept from the International Release. We recall this being discussed and agreed in the past, though we are not sure where the notes from those discussions are.
Hi Jim Campbell,
this was discussed in London 2017. We needed two separate property concepts to e.g. separate the two "measurement location" observables where one could have the answer "left upper arm" and the other "at home".
Now we have 758638001 | Geographical location (property) (qualifier value) | and 758637006 | Anatomical location (property) (qualifier value) | but no "location" common subsumer.
/Daniel
My bad that I did not followup and correct our extension. I will do so, substituting the International release concepts. We also created 530001000004102|Radial direction property(qualifier)| IS_A 118598001|Measurement property(qualifier)| for specifying the observations which are based on clock-face orientation describing the location of breast cancers and colon cancers. I do not see any such in SNOMED International, is that correct?
Jim
I think this (the radial direction) should be submitted to International!
I agree and we need to review different use cases. We (CIMI) has "tunneling clock direction" and "undermining clock direction" coming from the wound. The CIMI cancer interoperability folks have a clock direction from the breast nipple to the tumor. So...these may be different or maybe we can model them using same concepts.
Tentatively, I believe that the same 530001000004102|Radial direction property(qualifier)| concept would be used to define "tunneling clock direction" and "undermining clock direction" as well as "breast tumor location" observables. Would be interesting to look at the specifics though. For "breast tumor location" the reference direction12 o clock is up/superior but what is the reference direction for wound undermining and tunneling?
/Daniel
Jim Campbell, we agree that the International Release currently does not have a concept for Radial direction property (qualifier) and agree that it should be submitted. You can submit the request to us via NLM so it can be brought into the International Release retaining your extension concept id.
CC: Farzaneh Ashrafi, Daniel Karlsson
It appears that we have two concepts for the qualifier ANATOMIC LOCATION PROPERTY: 550001000004103 in Nebraska Lexicon as a subtype of LOCATION PROPERTY and 758637006 in SI. We need to agree on resolution of the duplication.