2022-03-21 - Cancer Synoptic Reporting Project Group Meeting
Cancer Synoptic Reporting Project Group
21 March 2022 at 16:30 UTC
Attendees @Scott Campbell @Ian Green @Former user (Deleted) @Nicola Ingram @Daniel Karlsson @Paul (Unlicensed) Katerina @Laszlo Igali (Unlicensed) @Keng-Ling Wallin (Unlicensed) @Thomas Ruediger (Unlicensed) @Stefan Dubois (Unlicensed)
@Suzanne Santamaria @Elaine Wooler
Meeting Recording (GoogleDrive)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iTFcIC9iwR_Ur-4i8lTHvous_8QC-bZT/view?usp=sharing
Discussion items
Item | Description | Owner | Notes | Action |
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1 | Cancer modeling changes | @Scott Campbell @Nicola Ingram | Review editorial changes for primary and metastatic cancer disorders. See links in action section
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2 | Lung cancer focality | @Scott Campbell |
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3 | Treatment effect | @Scott Campbell | Continue discussion: What are we measuring when assessing "treatment effect"? Is this a histologic change? Viability of tumor cells?
Note: SSA wonders about property in this model |
Will review model. This observable pertains to the process of regression/change in the neoplasm after antineoplastic therapy. So, observable could be modeled as presence of process changes.
Still a discussion. What is being measured? (Degree of presence of tumor). Can this be reproduced...base question is tumor there or not s/p therapy...tumor gone is best...everything else is questionable for the patient |
4 | Patterns | @Scott Campbell |
| We can use the morphologic descriptors...maybe...TBD |
5 | AJCC update? | @Jim Case | Any updates that can be shared? | @Jim Case meeting with AJCC on Wednesday 26-Jan to continue/finalize contract issues |
Meeting Files
Sorry for being late yesterday, I wasn't aware of the change of time.
Just a brief comment on the metastasizing benign entities: There is a discussion on benign metastasizing leiomyoma in Rosai's textbook (current 11th edition p1328):
In another paragraph, he also refers to pleomorphic adenoma.
Following this argumentation, I would model every metastasized neoplasm as malignant, being aware, that for some neoplasms histology might fail to adequately predict this behavior. Regarding terminology, I would suggest not to model any benign metastasizing disorders.
Same should refer to neuroendocrine tumors: If I understand correctly, the term tumor has been adopted to highlight that patients with metastasis have an excellent survival.
In the same line of argumentation I would suggest to model noninvasive papillary carcinoma of the urinary tract to subsume under benign neoplasms, intraepithelial neoplasia or precancerosis despite its designation.