2026-04-02: DEUSG Virtual
Meeting Details
Date & Time: 2nd April 2026, 12noon UTC
Objectives
Users' discussions about the SNOMED International Drug Model and National Drug Extension Model.
Zoom Link
Link: DEUSG Zoom Meeting Link
Meeting Recording
Passcode: s6M7Vv*T
Attendees:
Shane Byrnes, Alejandro Lopez Osornio, Yongsheng Gao, Julie James, Guillermo Reynoso, Francois Lavoie, Stuart Abbott, Acychut Patil, Ana Paredes, Frederic DOC, Jaya Sonavane, Jerry O’Sullivan, Julie Boutin, Justin Stout, Karen Rees, Nick McGraw, Nicki Ingram, Noelle Horan.
Discussion items:
Description | Mins | Owner | Notes & Actions | |
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| 1 | Opening | 2 min | Shane | Reminder of recording |
| 2 | Dose Form - Intended Site V Route of Administration | 25 min | Yongsheng / Karen | Proposal - Focus on overlapping terms (Routes and Intended Site), potentially qualifier value approach. |
| 3 | 'No Active Ingredient' Products | 25 min | Yongsheng | Follow up on topic proposed by Linda Bird / Canada |
| 4 | Introduction to Drug Model Implementation Guide | 5 min | Alejandro | Introduction - for discussion in Vienna |
| 5 | Agenda for Vienna | 5 min | All | 2026-04-15: DEUSG Vienna - User Support Reference Group - SNOMED Spaces |
| 6 | AOB | 2 min | All |
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Zoom AI generated summary of the meeting |
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Summary Dose Form Modeling Attributes DiscussionAn update was presented for discussion on dose form modeling, focusing on intended site versus route administration attributes. It was explained that while the intended site and route administration have distinct attributes in the modeling, many values are nearly identical when the route description is removed. As a follow on to previous options, two considerations were proposed: either consolidate and unify the common values between the hierarchies or create a mapping table to connect concepts. He suggested inactivating 30 intended sites and replacing them with corresponding existing route values to achieve a single code representation. Oral Dose Form vs AdministrationDuring the discussion the semantic differences between "oral dose form" and "oral route of administration," were highlighted - they represent distinct concepts rather than synonyms. Members provided implementation perspective, noting that current drug dictionary structures already require mapping between dose forms and administration routes, and suggested extending the route of administration hierarchy rather than merging the concepts, to maintain reusability across different countries' needs. Route Administration Mapping ConcernsGroup members expressed concerns about the mapping between "route of administration" and "intended site" terms, highlighting they are not synonymous and questioning the clinical value of such mapping. It was highlighted that there are practical limitations in programmatically mapping certain routes like parenteral and oral mucosal, and emphasized that clinical decisions require specific knowledge about medicines rather than just dose forms. The use of information in medication administration messages in FHIR resources was also highlighted, but these would also require specific knowledge of the scenario. Medication Route Modeling ChallengesThe group discussed challenges with modeling medication routes of administration and dose forms in SNOMED International. It was emphasized that decision support systems need to consider a triad of medication, route, and dose form rather than binary options. It was highlighted that maintaining semantic consistency is important, even if it requires abstraction and judgment calls in modeling complex concepts like enteral administration. It was suggested implementing a qualified voting mechanism for controversial topics, where only National Release Candidates (NRCs) with direct implementation interests should have voting rights. The group agreed to continue discussions in Vienna. SNOMED team shared a draft drug model implementation guide for review and noted the Agenda for Vienna would be posted on forums for user input and requests for topics. |