2021-05-20 - SLPG Meeting
Goals
Discuss feedback and examples on transformation implementation
Discuss the scope of postcoordination functionality in the terminology server
Continue discussion on dynamic templates
Attendees
Chair: Former user (Deleted)
Project Group: Ed Cheetham, michael lawley, Kai Kewley, Daniel Karlsson, Peter Jordan (Unlicensed), Rob Hausam
Goals
Discuss feedback and examples on transformation implementation
Discuss the scope of postcoordination functionality in the terminology server
Continue discussion on dynamic templates
Attendees
Chair: Former user (Deleted)
Project Group:
Agenda and Meeting Notes
Description | Owner | Notes |
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Welcome and agenda | Former user (Deleted) |
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Postcoordination Transformations |
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Dynamic Templates |
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Postcoordination Use Case Examples | All | Example 1 - Dentistry / Odontogram
Example 2 - Terminology binding
Example 3 - Mapping
Example 4 - Natural Language Processing
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Postcoordination Guidance | Former user (Deleted) , Anne Randorff Højen , Kai Kewley | Practical Guide to Postcoordination
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The items below are currently on hold | ||
Other Options for Future Progress |
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URIs for Extended Editions |
| ON HOLD - How to refer to an 'extended edition' using a URI - e.g. "International Edition plus the following 2 nursing modules: 733983009 |IHTSDO Nursing Health Issues module|and 733984003 |IHTSDO Nursing Activities module| Use Case - Need to execute an ECL, that refers to "^ 733991000 | Nursing Health Issues Reference Set (foundation metadata concept) |" and/or "^ 733990004 | Nursing Activities Reference Set (foundation metadata concept) |", where the substrate includes the international edition, plus the modules that include these reference sets July 2020 International Edition URI: http://snomed.info/sct/900000000000207008/version/20200731 July 2020 International Edition + nursing modules URI ?? - For example:
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Querying Refset Attributes | Former user (Deleted) | ON HOLD - Proposed syntax to support querying and return of alternative refset attributes (To be included in the SNOMED Query Language)
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Returning Attributes | michael lawley | ON HOLD - Proposal (by Michael) for discussion
For example, I can write: << 404684003|Clinical finding| : 363698007|Finding site| = <<66019005|Limb structure| << 404684003|Clinical finding| . 363698007|Finding site| But I can't get all the attribute names that are used by << 404684003|Clinical finding|
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Reverse Member Of | michael lawley | ON HOLD - Proposal for discussion What refsets is a given concept (e.g. 421235005 |Structure of femur|) a member of?
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Expression Templates | Peter Williams |
Examples: [[+id]]: [[1..*] @my_group sameValue(morphology)] { |Finding site| = [[ +id (<<123037004 |Body structure (body structure)| MINUS << $site[! SELF ] ) @site ]] , |Associated morphology| = [[ +id @my_morphology ]]}
Note that QI Project is coming from a radically different use case. Instead of filling template slots, we're looking at existing content and asking "exactly how does this concept fail to comply to this template?" For discussion: {"timestamp":1792733658951,"msg":"A unknown Exception Occurred","errorMsg":"The provided AtlassianHostUser did not specify a user to act as.","code":"500"} Is it correct to say either one of the cardinality blocks is redundant? What are the implications of 1..1 on either side? This is less obvious for the self grouped case. Road Forward for SI
Additional note: QI project is no longer working in subhierarchies. Every 'set' of concepts is selected via ECL. In fact most reports should now move to this way of working since a subhierarchy is the trivial case. For a given template, we additionally specify the "domain" to which it should be applied via ECL. This is much more specific than using the focus concept which is usually the PPP eg Disease. FYI Michael Chu |
Description Templates | Kai Kewley |
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Query Language
| Former user (Deleted) | FUTURE WORK Examples: version and dialect
Notes
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Agenda and Meeting Notes
Description | Owner | Notes |
|---|---|---|
Welcome and agenda | Former user (Deleted) |
|
Postcoordination Transformations |
|
|
Dynamic Templates |
|
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Postcoordination Use Case Examples | All | Example 1 - Dentistry / Odontogram
Example 2 - Terminology binding
Example 3 - Mapping
Example 4 - Natural Language Processing
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Postcoordination Guidance | Former user (Deleted) , Anne Randorff Højen , Kai Kewley | Practical Guide to Postcoordination
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The items below are currently on hold | ||
Other Options for Future Progress |
|
|
URIs for Extended Editions |
| ON HOLD - How to refer to an 'extended edition' using a URI - e.g. "International Edition plus the following 2 nursing modules: 733983009 |IHTSDO Nursing Health Issues module|and 733984003 |IHTSDO Nursing Activities module| Use Case - Need to execute an ECL, that refers to "^ 733991000 | Nursing Health Issues Reference Set (foundation metadata concept) |" and/or "^ 733990004 | Nursing Activities Reference Set (foundation metadata concept) |", where the substrate includes the international edition, plus the modules that include these reference sets July 2020 International Edition URI: http://snomed.info/sct/900000000000207008/version/20200731 July 2020 International Edition + nursing modules URI ?? - For example:
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Querying Refset Attributes | Former user (Deleted) | ON HOLD - Proposed syntax to support querying and return of alternative refset attributes (To be included in the SNOMED Query Language)
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Returning Attributes | michael lawley | ON HOLD - Proposal (by Michael) for discussion
For example, I can write: << 404684003|Clinical finding| : 363698007|Finding site| = <<66019005|Limb structure| << 404684003|Clinical finding| . 363698007|Finding site| But I can't get all the attribute names that are used by << 404684003|Clinical finding|
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Reverse Member Of | michael lawley | ON HOLD - Proposal for discussion What refsets is a given concept (e.g. 421235005 |Structure of femur|) a member of?
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Expression Templates | Peter Williams |
Examples: [[+id]]: [[1..*] @my_group sameValue(morphology)] { |Finding site| = [[ +id (<<123037004 |Body structure (body structure)| MINUS << $site[! SELF ] ) @site ]] , |Associated morphology| = [[ +id @my_morphology ]]}
Note that QI Project is coming from a radically different use case. Instead of filling template slots, we're looking at existing content and asking "exactly how does this concept fail to comply to this template?" For discussion: {"timestamp":1792733658995,"msg":"A unknown Exception Occurred","errorMsg":"The provided AtlassianHostUser did not specify a user to act as.","code":"500"} Is it correct to say either one of the cardinality blocks is redundant? What are the implications of 1..1 on either side? This is less obvious for the self grouped case. Road Forward for SI
Additional note: QI project is no longer working in subhierarchies. Every 'set' of concepts is selected via ECL. In fact most reports should now move to this way of working since a subhierarchy is the trivial case. For a given template, we additionally specify the "domain" to which it should be applied via ECL. This is much more specific than using the focus concept which is usually the PPP eg Disease. FYI Michael Chu |
Description Templates | Kai Kewley |
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Query Language
| Former user (Deleted) | FUTURE WORK Examples: version and dialect
Notes
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