2022-04-25 - OBSERVABLE Meeting

Welcome & apologies

@Daniel Karlsson

Remember recording!

Conflicts of interest

@Daniel Karlsson

None stated!

Minutes from previous meeting

@Daniel Karlsson

Impulsivity observable

@Piper Ranallo PhD

Process vs. quality

@Daniel Karlsson

See presentation.

There is an issue with allowing the same meaning to be represented in two different ways, one as a quality characterized by a process, one as a process with some output. Particularly, when representing qualities such as presence it seems to be an undesirable feature of the model if different modeling applies if the presence is characterized by a process compared to if it is not.

Gender and race observables

@Jim Campbell

2022-02-21:

Presentation of Race and Gender assignment observables.

@Alejandro Lopez Osornio in latin america this typically is not recorded, with few exceptions. 

@Karim Nashar patient-reported, self-assigned, where is that seen in the modeling? It is represented through Interview technique.

@Daniel Karlsson recording race is illegal in many european countries.

2022-04-25:

Re-modelling of some existing concepts, including 184100006 | Patient sex (observable entity) |. See presentation attached.

There still seem to be an (almost) agreement in the group that biological aspects of sex should be kept separate from sociological aspects of gender modeling-wise.

Next meeting

@Daniel Karlsson

Next meeting is May 23 2022 20.00 UTC (I'm on vacation May 16)

Agenda:

• MBH observable @Piper Ranallo PhD

• One-pager for E2O @Former user (Deleted)

• Process and quality @Daniel Karlsson

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