2018-02-26 - OBSERVABLE Meeting

2018-02-26 - OBSERVABLE Meeting

Date

2018-02-26 20.00 UTC

Attendees

  • Michael Osborne (Unlicensed)

  • Former user (Deleted)

  • Farzaneh Ashrafi

  • Daniel Karlsson

  • Brian Carlsen

Apologies



 

Objectives

  • Resolve Likelihood observables

  • Introduce product vs substance issue

Discussion items

 

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1

Welcome & apologies

Daniel Karlsson

 

 

 

2

Conflicts of interest

Daniel Karlsson

  • None stated

 

 

3

Previous minutes

Daniel Karlsson

 

 

 

4

LOINC collaboration

Farzaneh Ashrafi

Daniel Karlsson

Rob Hausam

+all

  • Likelihood

    • Two distinct cases were identified:

      1. Specifying certainty (or uncertainty) about the result of an observation. Examples: Fetal sex, Trisomy 21 present by "Dosage of chromosome specific cf DNA" method.

      2. Prediction of a possible future event based on varying amount of information about the patient, from population-only based assessment (i.e. prevalence) to assessment based on several variables. Examples include 1p36 deletion risk based on population risk, Trisomy 21 risk based on maternal age, to the CHADS-VASC instrument.

Example values:

  • Still waiting for input from Jim Case, Daniel Karlsson to remind

 

5

Susceptibility

Farzaneh Ashrafi

  • Mapping of LOINC component for Susceptibility LOINC terms

    • Two alternatives for representing LOINC component / SNOMED Towards:

      1. Use substances: have to add combined substances for combined antibiotics, e.g. Amoxicillin+Clavulanic acid. Cannot represent strenghts. Cannot represent only vs. contains semantics(?).

      2. Use products: Depending on drug project, may represent only/contains, can represent strengh, can represent combinations

    • However, only/contains semanstics might be less of an issue, combined substances can be added according to guidelines, antibiotic strength LOINC terms seem to be just a way to represent MIC(??).

Daniel Karlsson to contact Jim Case about substancs vs. product
Farzaneh Ashrafi to talk to drug project and RI
Michael Osborne (Unlicensed) to talk to AU microbiologists about strength terms

 

6

Next meeting

Daniel Karlsson

  • Next meeting is on the 2018-03-05 20.00 UTC

 

 

7

Face-to-face

Daniel Karlsson

  • LOINC - SNOMED issues (1h)

Daniel Karlsson to create a page for face-to-face agenda

 

9

AOB

Daniel Karlsson

 

 

 

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