2018-02-06 - SNOMED on FHIR Meeting (TS)

2018-02-06 - SNOMED on FHIR Meeting (TS)

Date

20:00 UTC on Tuesday 6 February 2018 - 90 minutes.

Objectives

  • FHIR Terminology Services and Resources

Meeting Details

Onlinehttps://snomed.zoom.us/my/snomedhl7

Phone: See https://zoom.us/zoomconference for available phone numbers (meeting id 242-348-6949)

Chathttps://chat.snomedtools.org/channel/snomed-fhir
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Attendees

@Rob Hausam@Dion McMurtrie@Peter Williams@Jane Millar@Former user (Deleted)@Daniel Karlsson@Former user (Deleted)@Anne Randorff Højen@Brian Carlsen@Former user (Deleted)@Former user (Deleted)@Former user (Deleted), Evan Currie, @michael lawley@Former user (Deleted)@Olof Mattsson@Peter Jordan@Reuben Daniels@Susan Matney, Øyvind

Apologies

Meeting Recording

https://snomed.zoom.us/recording/play/7NPcU_-l-hLt4-BBszsmi-LMpfHpPW1jNN_ym46MpLxL97ej5w4CLlkco8Wb-A2H

Discussion items

Description

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Notes & Actions

Description

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Owner

Notes & Actions

1

Welcome and introductions

5

@Peter Williams

Recording + Notes.

Session at April Business Meeting https://www.snomed.org/participate/attend-our-events/ (8 - 11 April) Wed pm.

2

Summary of previous week

5

@Peter Williams

3

Review of "Using SNOMED with FHIR" page

5

@Peter Williams

All participants are invited to review this local copy of that page prior to our next Terminology Services meeting. 

@Jane Millar please adjudicate on use of IHTSDO vs SNOMED International. Answer: Legal documents should refer to "IHTSDO". User documentation should use SNOMED International.
@Rob Hausam advise on time lines and channel for response

All comments to be received by 20 February 2018. Potential to ballot for Normative Status.

Query coming from Grahame G. about how implementable this is eg with cross field validation. Risk of introducing performance issues. Perhaps easier to introduce as "Best Practice" for those with the capability to implement.

How constrained should our profiles be eg allowing for non-SNOMED coding? Dion suggested allowing cherry picking from options available. Rob suggested need for expectations of conformance.

4

This weeks Star Topic

40

@Dion McMurtrie

Attempt to achieve conclusion:

@Dion McMurtrie to ask @Liam Barnes to contribute what is being done for NCTS in Australia
@Rob Hausam to provide tracker item for further discussion.
GForge tracker #13820
Add explicit parameters to ValueSet $expand value set and code system version
https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=13820
5

Terminology Capabilities

10

@Dion McMurtrie

Overlap with FHIR Server capabilities / CodeSystem resource. How do we determine for a given FHIR Server which code systems and versions are supported?

https://www.hl7.org/fhir/capabilitystatement.html vs http://build.fhir.org/terminologycapabilities.html

  • Sufficient to query the code system resource ? Is not considered sufficient (due to possibility of declared resources not being operationally implemented, ie used for simple storage). Could instead be declared in a capability statement.

@Rob Hausam to supply tracker item on this issue.
GForge tracker #14539
The existence of a CodeSystem resource on a server should only be interpreted as a declaration of the code system properties, not as a declaration of server support and expected behavior
https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=14539&start=0

Suggestion (GG) that we document the minimal acceptable capabilities of a SNOMED FHIR Server.

6

Review of proposals for possible Terminology Services and Resources collaborative work

10

@Dion McMurtrie

See Collaborative Work :

All - Invitation to fill in capabilities of known FHIR Implementations: Features of Known Servers ( @Linda Parisien ? ). Suggestion that this could be taken forward into SnomedInside (MHosking)
@Peter Williams to speak to @Nick Egarhos about above.

@Peter Williams @Jane Millar @Former user (Deleted) to return to issue of identifiers for legacy versions of SNOMED and respond for 20 Feb.

7

Topic for next meeting

5

@Peter Williams

Plan for following fortnight: Focus on 4.2.1.0 Using SNOMED CT with FHIR

 

8

Any other business

0

@Peter Williams

@Jane Millar working on draft Terms of Reference, to be reviewed by The Member Forum (meeting in February)
All please review Terms of Reference prior to submission to Member Forum Meeting.

@Peter Williams will be away Tuesday 13 February.


 

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