2022-04-11 - CMAG Meeting

Welcome

Cathy Richardson

• Attendees list

• Note: Meeting will be recorded for the purpose of creating minutes. The recording will be deleted once the minutes have been approved. 

  • Recording of meeting from Item 2 uploaded until minutes approved. 

Apologies/conflicts of interest

Cathy Richardson

• Apologies as noted

• Declarations of Interest - nil declared

Administrative

Cathy Richardson

Monica Harry

• Minutes of meetings - attendees to be asked to approve last meeting and this meetings minutes.

  • Approval process going forward -recording done for purpose of making minutes.

• CMAG Action List

  • List reviewed.

    • Laboratory Findings- as listed below.

    • 2022 Primary and metastatic malignancy disorder concepts - comments seen. Further internal discussion to occur. 

    • Information Request - Additional Doses of COVID-19 Vaccines - topic remaining open

Inactivation Reports

Cathy Richardson

• International Edition Concept Inactivation Reports

  • Page with reports shown and process (as documented on the page) for raising any issues with an inactivation covered. 

Frequency Data

Cathy Richardson

• 2022-04-05 SNOMED Editorial Advisory Group Meeting - Item 3 brought to attention of this group.  

  • Other NRC's are welcome to provide frequency guidance to SNOMED International if available. 

Therapeutic and Diagnostic Procedures

Elaine Wooler

• Presentation to be provided shortly.

• Questions for group: 

  • The following grouper concepts exist under 362961001 |Procedure by
    intent (procedure)|. How useful are these groupers in practice as they do not capture all
    diagnostic and therapeutic procedures and could they be inactivated?

    • 103693007 |Diagnostic procedure (procedure)| - 764 descendants

    • 277132007 |Therapeutic procedure (procedure)| - 2088 descendants

  • How useful are the other high level concepts that give little clinical information and have
    few or no subtypes. Examples include:

    • 36219006 |Diagnostic procedure on tibia (procedure)|

    • 39550008 |Diagnostic procedure on iris (procedure)|

  • Questions from attendees with responses:

    • Will concepts be inactivated or more about usage at this point?

      • More about usage at this point. Responses will determine next steps.

    • Why are there subtypes missing? 

      • Diagnostic and therapeutic only used in modelling if both exist. So if a procedure is only diagnostic or only therapeutic then it is not modelled with an intent. 

Measurement Findings

Former user (Deleted)

• 2022 Laboratory Findings- Use of Reference Range

  • Paul unable to be present.

  • Topic page and discussion on this topic at the EAG last week 2022-04-05 SNOMED Editorial Advisory Group Meeting raised. 

    • Provide feedback on the proposal on the topic page by 25th April. 

Any other business

ALL

• Other business?

• No future meetings scheduled at this point in time. 

  • Will look at the potential to have a meeting at the October business meetings, if required.