2023-10-24 - CMAG Meeting

2023-10-24 - CMAG Meeting

Meeting day and time: Tuesday 24th October 2023 1100-1230 (local time) 

In-Person: Muse 5

For virtual attendees Tuesday 24th October 1500 - 1630 UTC

Meeting Details:  :https://snomed.zoom.us/j/95069855707?pwd=dndhRDlaWEZGOWtCa2tqSmczU291Zz09

Passcode:039823

Information on using Zoom: Starting with ZOOM

Attendees

@Cathy Richardson @Monica Harry @Ian Spiers @Maria Braithwaite @Former user (Deleted) @Hyeoun-Ae Park @Matt Cordell @Elze de Groot @Katrien Scheerlinck (Unlicensed) @John Snyder (Unlicensed) @Nicola Ingram @Krista Lilly @Hanne Fjeldstad Johansen @Lea Miharsa @Libby Antoun @Keng-Ling Wallin  @Yvonne Coughlan @Graeme Elsby @Julie Boutin @Janice Spence @Beate Kristiansen @Megan Berry @Peter Van Ausdeln @Suzanne Santamaria @Michael Jones 



Apologies 

@Camilla Wiberg Danielsen, @Louise Bie 

Minutes:

  • Page will be updated with minutes following the meeting.

Objectives

Discussion items - Agenda 

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1

Welcome

@Cathy Richardson 

  • Attendees list

  • Note: Meeting will be recorded for the purpose of creating minutes. The recording will be deleted once the minutes have been approved. 

    • Recording of meeting will be available online until minutes approved. 



2

Administration

@Cathy Richardson 

  • Apologies

  • Declarations of Interest  

    • For current meeting

    • CMAG members to review and update as required their DOI information. 

      • Please advise the date the review was undertaken 

  • Action items

Nov 10, 2023 DOI review @Camilla Wiberg Danielsen
Nov 10, 2023 DOI review  @Louise Bie
Nov 10, 2023DOI review @Elze de Groot
Nov 10, 2023 DOI review @Katrien Scheerlinck (Unlicensed)
Nov 10, 2023 DOI review @Libby Antoun
Nov 10, 2023 DOI review @Keng-Ling Wallin
Nov 10, 2023DOI review @Anna Harasim
Nov 10, 2023DOI review @Theresa Barry  
3

CMAG contributions in 2023

@Cathy Richardson 

  • Acknowledgement of CMAG 2023 contributions - as per slide deck



4

IHTSDO Content Tracker Update

@Cathy Richardson 

  • Update on work on the content trackers - as per slide deck



5

Content Promotion 

@Maria Braithwaite 

  • Review of content promotion process - as per slide deck

Meeting question on points of contact - names can't be provided but the website does provide contact details. 



6

Content questions and issues

@Cathy Richardson 

  • How to raise:

    • Modelling questions

    • A content issue that's been identified

    • Questions for other CMAG members

  • How SNOMED International manages questions and issues

See slide deck - no questions or comments. 



7

Issue Feedback and Updates

Group

  • Responses to SNOMED International from the CMAG members

    • Expectations

    • Timelines

  • Updates on issue resolution

Discussion notes: 

  • July-August period for Northern hemisphere

    • Issues come up month to month so can't preplan to send earlier.

    • Members need extra time due to holiday period especially when seeking input from clinicians, external groups etc. 

    • Timelines for feedback during this period will be extended to the end of September. If additional time is needed please let SNOMED International know.

  • No comments on needing further updates on the outcome of issues. 



8

National content development discussion

Group

  • Interest in sharing information on national content development activities

  • Interest in sharing content resources

Discussion:

  • Interest on sharing national content development activities

    • Past work that has been done as well as future work would be worth sharing information on. May: 

      • Help identify gaps in content that are relevant to more than one country

      • Content that one country has that is useful to others

      • Prevent duplication of content

    • Standing item to be added to meeting agendas to support this.

    • Discussion section on CMAG site can also be used

  • Question on what is meant by resources

    • It's up to the group on what resources they would be interested in

  • Copyright issues are a challenge - could use discussion pages to ask if other's know who owns an item e.g. a scale



9

Terms of Reference discussion

Group

  • CMAG purpose: Provide an avenue for National Content Extension Managers to collaborate on content focused topics relevant to national extensions and SNOMED International

  • CMAG scope:

    • Development of material that supports national and international interests in content extension management. 

    • Creation of task and finish subgroups to support progression of identified work items. 

Discussion:

  • The sharing of content development activities aligns with the purpose. 

  • Ethnic and racial topic - Potential for CMAG input?

  • International changes impact on national extensions 

    • Implementation aspect needs to be directed to implementation support. Content perspective can be covered in the CMAG. 

    • Extension impact report is very helpful in identifying content impacted by changes. 

    • ECL queries which are present in some briefing notes are useful to identify national content that will be impacted by the changes.

    • There is some high level AL2 content that may assist here as a starting point. Will be shared with the group. 

  • @Cathy Richardson will add a discussion question to assist identification of a topic the group would like to explore together. 

@Ian Spiers to share relevant information from the AL2 course on change management of content.
10

2024 Work plan

Group

  • Discussion on 2024 CMAG activities

    • Topics discussed during the meeting will looked at for potential new CMAG work items. 



11

Any other business

ALL

  • Other business? Nil. 



12

Next meeting

@Cathy Richardson 

  • January 2024 - date and time to be confirmed



Meeting Files

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PDF File 2023 Oct Business Meetings Presentation_CMAG.pdf

2023-Oct-17 by Cathy Richardson

Actions: 

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Response required by CMAG members who attended meeting

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Nov 21, 2023 

Review October 2023 minutes and provide any feedback below.

@Monica Harry 



 @Elze de Groot Due Dec 22, 2023 
@Former user (Deleted) Dec 22, 2023 
@Libby Antoun Dec 22, 2023 
@Katrien Scheerlinck (Unlicensed) Dec 22, 2023 
@Keng-Ling Wallin Dec 22, 2023 

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