2025-07-03: DEUSG Virtual

2025-07-03: DEUSG Virtual

Meeting Details

Date & Time: 3rd July 2025 11am UTC

Objectives

  • Users' discussions about the SNOMED International Drug Model and National Drug Extension Model.

Attendees:

@Shane Byrnes @Alejandro Lopez Osornio @Yongsheng Gao @Monica Harry Jerry O'Sullivan @Aditya Parnandi (Unlicensed) @Betania Arispe (Unlicensed) @Claudie Sombie (Deactivated) @Colin Macfarlane (Unlicensed) @Elisabeth Serrot (Unlicensed) @Émilie NGUYEN (Unlicensed) @Emma Melhuish (Unlicensed) @francois.lavoie (Unlicensed) Ger Gahan @Guillermo Reynoso @Hanne Fjeldstad Johansen @Herman Muys (Unlicensed) @Jaya Sonavane (Unlicensed) Jessica MacDougall @Julia Xu @Julie Boutin @Julie James (BW) (Unlicensed) Julien Montreuil @Krista Lilly Laila Barrouhou @Linda Bird (Unlicensed) Maria Gomez @Maria Yunes (Unlicensed) Marine Rodrigeuz @Michael Keary (Unlicensed) @Nicholas McGraw @Nicola Ingram @Noelle Horan (Unlicensed) @Marta Pavón Garrido @Patricia Houghton (Unlicensed) @Patrick McLaughlin @Paul Wright @Robert Wynne (Unlicensed) @Rossana Occhiuzzi @Stuart Abbott (Unlicensed) @Tara Kelly (Unlicensed) @Yolaine Forget (Unlicensed) @ana.paredes (Unlicensed) @Theresa Barry 



Meeting Recording

Link: Recording Link

Passcode: 9AE.en%5

Discussion items

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Notes & Actions

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Notes & Actions

1

Opening

2

@Shane Byrnes 
@Alejandro Lopez Osornio

Welcome & Notification of Recording

2

Substances Co-ordination

10

@Krista Lilly @Alejandro Lopez Osornio 

Updates on Substances Co-Ordination:

  • Step 1: Substances in multiple extensions

  • Step 2: Substances in one extension

    • Country self-review/first pass

    • Then, SI will review in scope

3

Hydration - Demonstrate Examples

35

@Yongsheng Gao 

@Guillermo Reynoso @Linda Bird (Unlicensed) 

Updates on development work in relation to hydration substances.

4

Vaccine Substances

2

@Shane Byrnes 

For Information: WHO recommended flu vaccine antigen substances for 2025/2026 season (Northern Hemisphere) are now available in International Release

  • 1366440009 Antigen of Influenza B virus B/Austria/1359417/2021 (B/Victoria lineage)-like virus strain (substance)

  • 1366438004 Antigen of Influenza A virus A/Croatia/10136RV/2023 (H3N2)-like virus strain (substance)

  • 1366437009 Antigen of Influenza A virus A/Victoria/4897/2022 (H1N1)pdm09-like virus strain (substance)

  • 1366436000 Antigen of Influenza A virus A/District of Columbia/27/2023 (H3N2)-like virus strain (substance)

  • 1366435001 Antigen of Influenza A virus A/Wisconsin/67/2022 (H1N1)pdm09-like virus strain (substance)

  • 1366374009 Antigen of Influenza B virus B/Phuket/3073/2013 (B/Yamagata lineage)-like virus strain (substance)

5

Has Container Type

5

@Linda Bird (Unlicensed) 

Feedback on Canada plans to use the |Physical object| hierarchy (specifically < 398124009 |Drug container (physical object)|) for the range of the |Has container type| relationship

6

'Drug Therapy' v 'Administration of drug'

5

@Nicola Ingram 

Group feedback sought on 'Drug Therapy' versus 'Administration of Drug' on Discussion Forum

7

AOB



All

  1. National Extension Model Guide: User query on FSNs and PTs for combination 'Packaged Clinical Drug'. How are countries approaching this?

8

Topic Backlog





  • Hydration Subsumption

  • Less Granular Clinical Drug

  • Elemental Substances (Matt, AUS)

  • Substances Co-ordination

    • Step 1: Substances in multiple extensions

    • Step 2: Substances in one extension

    • Step 3: Ongoing Substance Co-ordination (capturing at regulator level)

  • Medication Stopped v Medication Discontinued (Karen, SI)

  • Medicinal Product promotion co-ordination (Oslo group discussion as linked to substances work + ES)

  • Value range of a |Has container type| attribute (Linda, CA)

  • Top level children of 373873005 |Pharmaceutical / biologic product| hierarchy - are members using/how are members using? (AUS) 

  • Routes of Administration - Implementation Considerations (Mia, NZ)

  • Group Input on Patch Strength Representation

  • Dose Form Intended Site v Route of Administration (BEL)

  • Drug extension MRCM attributes (CA, AUS)

  File Modified

PDF File Hydration and Grouper CDs.pdf

2025-Jul-02 by Shane Byrnes

Microsoft Powerpoint Presentation Hydration subsumption.pptx

2025-Jul-03 by Yongsheng Gao





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