2026-04-13- TRAG Meeting Agenda/Minutes
Date
Apr 13, 2026 - 13:30 - 17:00 (CEST - LOCAL TIME) (12:30 - 16:00 UTC)
Room: Upper Belvedere 2-3
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Attendees
@Andrew Atkinson, Chair
@Mikael Nyström (Unlicensed), member
@Graeme Elsby (Unlicensed) , member
@Dion McMurtrie , member
@Gábor Nagy (Unlicensed) , member
@Ale , member
@Maria Braithwaite , staff/observerst
@michael lawley, guest/observer
@Mounir Bouzanih (Unlicensed), member
Apologies
@Alejandro Lopez Osornio, staff/observers
@Matt Cordell , guest/observer
@Chris Morris, staff/observerst
@Patrick McLaughlin, member
@Reuben Daniels, member
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Objectives
Briefly discuss each item
Agree on the plan to analyse and resolve each issue, and document the Action points
All those with Action points assigned to them to agree to complete them before the next face to face conference meeting
Discussion items
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| 1 | Welcome! | All | Thanks to our members for all of their help. Welcome to our observers! INTRODUCTIONS... We've got several topics that we've resolved and closed down As always, we won't waste time going through them again in detail, but if you'd like to read through them they're listed below... I'll also run through them very quickly from a high level, and if you have any further questions/news on any of the discussions please let me know now and we can decide whether or not to re-open them... |
| 2 | Conclusion of previous Discussions topics | ||
| 3 | Guillermo + Spanish Edition users | Proposal to move to QUARTERLY RELEASES from 10th November onwards, new schedule would therefore be:
In the interim, any early translations required in each relevant country, will be included in the local extensions. They will then be re-aligned with the Spanish Edition once we move to quarterly releases. Any concerns/foreseeable issues?
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| 5 | Derivative product Release package formats | All |
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| 7 | Active Discussions for April 2025 | ||
| 8 | Welcome and thank you! | Welcome to new members! | |
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| 10 | IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT |
| In order to comply with SNOMED International’s governance in relation to the electronic recording of telephone or video calls and generated artificial intelligence summaries in relation to SI business, AI enabled summaries will now be required as a course of SI business. This means that AI enabled summaries will be activated for all Advisory Group meeting from this point onwards, including this TRAG meeting. This is to enable SI to provide written event summaries after our Business Meetings to the GA, and the AI function is key to administering that. Please note: All summaries will be de-identified (anonymised) before including them in the post event reports. By remaining in this session, you consent to these summaries being created and used to generate the reports. |
| 11 | UPDATING TRAG DATA |
Please send declarations of interest to AAT and I'll update them... | |
| 12 | ALL - OCTOBER 2026 | Secondly, we need to walk through the original Terms Of Reference for the TRAG, and ensure that they're still relevant, and update if required: AAT to update ToR ADD "Product development", and remove all obsolete references (such as 14 people, etc) and send to TRAG for final review! COMPLETED: TRAG to review in 2026 : ToR to ultimately be uploaded to the site | |
| 13 | REGULAR TOPIC | Suzy | We will be regularly providing updates on the current Collaboration pieces. More importantly, we will also regularly be asking for feedback on all of our Collaborative products, in order to ascertain how we can improve our offerings going forward (eg) Who's using the following, what for, and how can the products be improved?
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| 15 | All | This approach was successfully implemented in order to resolve the issues found in the September 2017 US Edition - is everyone comfortable with using this approach for all future similar situations? If so we can document it as the accepted practice in these circumstances... NO! Everyone is decidedly uncomfortable with this solution! In particular Keith Campbell, Michael Lawley and Guillermo are all vehemently opposed to changing history. The consensus is that in the particular example of the US problem, we should have instead granted permission for the US to publish an update record in the International module, thus fixing the problem (though leaving the incorrect history in place). This would have been far preferable to changing history. ACTION POINT FOR EVERYONE FOR OCTOBER 2018: (@Dion McMurtrie, @Matt Cordell, @Orsolya Bali (Unlicensed), @Suzy Roy, @Former user (Deleted), @Former user (Deleted), @Mikael Nyström (Unlicensed), @Chris Morris We therefore all need to come up with potential scenarios where going forward we may need to implement a similar solution to the Negative Delta, and send them to AAT. Once I've documented them all, we can then discuss again and agree on the correct approach in each place, then AAT will document all of these as standard, proportionate responses to each situation, and we will use these as guidelines in future. If we have issues come up that fall outside of these situations, we'll then come back to the group to discuss each one subjectively, and then add them back into the list of agreed solutions.
October 2018 - Guillermo proposed a separate possibility, which is to introduce a new Status (eg) -1 whereby if you find this status in the latest snpashot you would just ignore it - this doesn't however address the use case where there is a legal contravention and you need to physically remove the content from the package - the use case where you would have something that contravenes RF2 paradigm, you can't use the RF2 format to correct something that is RF2 invalid! So this is unlikely to work... Nobody is on board with this idea, as it's too fragile and introduces unnecessary complexity such as we had with RF1... April 2019 If we're still all in agreement with this, then steps 1-5 above should all be documented and disseminated to get confirmation of approval from everyone?? Did everyone read through everything? Has anyone got any further scenarios that we can include in the documentation? The EAG raised this issue again on 08/04/2109 - Peter to try to make it to the next TRAG to explain the use case that was raised today and elaborate on the new proposal... The TRAG discussed this issue at length, and came to the conclusion that we cannot address ALL potential use cases with a standard, generic, solution (certainly not any of those offered above). Instead the solution in each case should be agreed on given each specific use case that comes up each time So INSTEAD we should update the Critical Incident Policy to very clearly define the process to be followed each time we need to remove something from the Published release(s): Which group of people should make the decision on the solution Perhaps we also provide examples of how each use case might be resolved: For Legal/IP contraventions, we should either remove content from history entirely, or redact it (leave the records in place, but remove all content from fields except for UUID, effectiveTime, moduleID, etc - thus allowing traceability of the history of the components, without including the offending content itself) For Clinical risk issues, we can remove it from the Snapshot, but leave the Full file intact to leave a historical audit trail whilst ensuring that the dangerous content shouldn't get used again (as most people use the snapshot) - see Full file steps 1-5 above, etc How to communicate it out to the users, etc OCTOBER 2019 - DISCUSSION RE-OPENED AS PART OF THE MAG: ONCE FEEDBACK OBTAINED FROM MAG: @Andrew Atkinson to update the Critical Incident Policy with the various use cases that we've identified so far the governing bodies who should be the deciding entities the process for making the decision in each case including the critical entities that need to be collaborated with in each case (all NRC's, plus 3rd party suppliers (termMed etc) who represent some of them), to ensure the final solution does not break outlying extensions or anything the process for communicating out those decisions to ALL relevant users FRESH APPROACH IN OCTOBER 2026: See Guillermo’s straw man… | |
| 16 | Allowed Characters in SNOMED CT Despcriptions | ALL | This topic is to discuss what action to take with both historical terms and future terms, wrt the inclusion of UTF-8 characters that aren’t necessarily helpful to end users. Please see Dion’s analysis here: https://forums.snomed.org/t/standardised-set-of-allowed-characters-in-snomed-ct-descriptions/818 A file was originally received from the UK regarding unhelpful characters, such as soft hyphens, in some published descriptions. Consequently, a ticket has been logged with the tech team to enhance validation and reporting for these characters: https://projects.jira.snomed.org/browse/RP-975 This check was implemented in March 2026. Peter has since generated a report of existing descriptions with "Acceptable character violations," which you can review here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bsN36W9QijjPuLJ2B7p7wniqBpPKSuhirhBf0xg9szg/edit?usp=sharing The TRAG then, needs to aim to identify:
This will enable us to decide which course of action to take:
ACTIONS (April 2026): @Peter Williams
@Maria Braithwaite
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| 17 | Transition plan for the DescriptionType length limits | ALL | Walkthrough plan to transition to new DescriptionType length limit: Hopefully you all saw the new comms go out back in September, confirming the final Transition Plan: This confirms the planned migration date of July 2026 for the International Edition. NOTE: WE ALSO NEED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO STANDARDISE THIS ACROSS ALL PRODUCTS (EXTENSIONS, SPANISH EDITION, DERIVATIVES + ALL OTHER SI PRODUCTS) TO AVOID A SIMILAR CONSULTATION in future!! (as ALL our products would move to 4096) NOTE: we looked at options for moving to this sooner for Spanish Edition, but it wasn’t feasible. We will therefore be doing this in line line with the International Edition updates, which will start in July 2026 AAT to therefore publish proposal comms to transition Spanish Edition in August 2026 In the meantime, Guillermo will manage specific requirements with the DescriptionType config in the relevant local extensions. . MAKE SURE THE FORUMS PAGE IS NOW AVAILABLE TO ALL - Michael and others couldn’t see it back in October 2025... . WE SENT A BRIEFING NOTE OUT EARLIER THIS MONTH REGARDING THE FINAL TRANSITION PLAN FOR THE DescriptionType Length Limit Changes: 1. We will proceed to make the CONFIG change (increasing the MAX limit to 4096 in July 2026) 2. BUT we will NOT be changing any of the actual International descriptions yet. These changes will follow in subsequent International Edition releases. . Currently we’ve made this post available (for information only) on the MF forum: The Early Visibility page has also been updated accordingly. HOWEVER, assuming that the MF have no objections with this, we’re thinking that there might be more people still needing notice? SO SHOULD WE POST THIS PUBLICLY AS WELL TO ENSURE MAXIMUM VISIBILITY?? SHOULD WE ALSO POST SOMETHING IN THE INTERNATIONAL RELEASE NOTES??
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| 18 | DEPRECATION PLANS |
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| ALL - OCTOBER 2026 | Walk through plan to Deprecate CNC Indicators (started Jan 2026, concludes Jan 2027) |