2020-11-09 - MBH-CRG Meeting

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Clinical findings hierarchies containing concepts describing physical symptoms with no known underlying physiologic explanation. These findings are typically qualified using the following terms:

• somatoform

• psychogenic

• conversion

• hysterical

• functional

  • dissociative

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Discussed opportunities for stronger collaboration between SNOMED and APA

Discussed issues related to APA copyrights.

• Can we  educate APA about SNOMED -  what it is, what it isn’t?

  • Value proposition of SNOMED to APA

• Discussed defining exactly what it is we (MABH-CRG) are asking APA for

  • Former user (Deleted) noted that this is what APA wanted, and has worked towards with ICD

    • Need to spell out permissions explicitly

  • Group recognized the need to educate APA about SNOMED

• Elaine Wooler raised the example of: terms somatic symptom disorder and the term bodily distress disorder

• Monica Harry noted that attribution is not allowed in SNOMED

Action items

• Complete one or two sections completely

• Develop a PPT presentation for APA

  • Highlight the DSM terms – allow APA to see the end product and use cases

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Discussed term "functional disorder"

The following model represents the groups understanding of how these concepts are used clinically at least in the US:

Open

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What does it mean to say a concept is internationally accepted?

We need buy-in from folks from other countries, but CRG currently largely comprised of folks from the US. 

• Does ICD11 represent the international perspective?

• Does DSM5 represent the US perspective only?

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Meeting Summary